zak
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i have a 94' 5.0 and im looking to put a trick flow track heat 360hp top end kit on it any advice or tips?
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94' gt 5.0 top end kit
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that is a real nice kit...
I have looked at those kits before and they look really well setup, but I haven't seen one in person yet. I say do a little more research on it, I think they look good though.
The best kit, on the market.. Is the Holley SysteMax II Intake - Complete Kit...
, boy that's an opinion, and just an opinion. Do your research...the Holley kit is nice, but not the "BEST"!!! Are you looking for more torque or horsepower? Will the car be racing in a straight line or around curves? Are you just looking to improve a street car? Are you adding Nitrous? Boost?You have to explain what your final expectation is and then your question can be answered more correctly. Maybe the Holley SysteMax Kit is your best option, but it depends on your expectations.
You have to explain what your final expectation is and then your question can be answered more correctly. Maybe the Holley SysteMax Kit is your best option, but it depends on your expectations.
You got to be kidding me. His post says he is buying the track heat. What do you think this means? Find me another kit better than the Holley System max kit out of the box...
You got to be kidding me. His post says he is buying the track heat. What do you think this means? Find me another kit better than the Holley System max kit out of the box...
I wish you would read more and talk less. There are four setups that were tested by two different groupls with similiar results from each group. Each setup has pluses and minuses depending upon the setup and use of the car. READ! And when your ready to put your money were your mouth is, I'll post the best setup for an N/A stock 5.0 engine, for drag racing that is straight out of the box...along with the data to back it up....not just an advertisement or an opinion.
I'll provide one example just to wet the whistle:
1. Holley is the better choice for a Nitrous Setup. Holley has produced a custom Nitrous Plate designed to maximize spray and therefore horsepower from the engine.
2. Trickflow is better for blower applications. The breadbox intake option allows for smoother flow through the intake during blower operations and maximizes cooling of the air prior to injection.
3. But if you are going N/A, the best setup does not come from the box and the intake is no longer produced. You'll have to purchase it used. In the long run, the kit is not the best option for naturally aspirated engines.
Of course, there are many more reasons to define your expectations and which direction to choose.
1. Holley is the better choice for a Nitrous Setup. Holley has produced a custom Nitrous Plate designed to maximize spray and therefore horsepower from the engine.
2. Trickflow is better for blower applications. The breadbox intake option allows for smoother flow through the intake during blower operations and maximizes cooling of the air prior to injection.
3. But if you are going N/A, the best setup does not come from the box and the intake is no longer produced. You'll have to purchase it used. In the long run, the kit is not the best option for naturally aspirated engines.
Of course, there are many more reasons to define your expectations and which direction to choose.
Like you said, it is all relative, and all about how much $ you want to spend. If you are looking for an all out drag car, of course there are many more options to think about. For a daily driver, quick and easy upgrade and for the cost, it is the best option. This is coming from first hand experience, not something that I read.
zak
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im improving a street driver but was kinda gunna make it a street strip car....n/a with a possible SCAT 347 stroker mod as well......realistically i heard that top end kits are more bang for ur buck then mixing and matching heads with an intake and cam.....maybe later on down the line a supercharger of some kind but for now just trying to get a decent easy to build, moderate horse power increase but a good torque curve as well, and reasonably cheap....im also gunna do full msd and 3.73 limited slip diff with moser 32 splined axles.....another question would the stock t-5 trans be able to stand up to the power increase?......wats system were u refering to that isnt made anymore?
It's not a system, but rather an intake; the GT40 tubular intake is no longer available.
For your setup, the Trick Flow Track Heat is the best full kit to put on your engine. Otherwise, you will have to mix and match heads, intake and exhaust. The Track Heat is less expensive and performs every bit as well as the Holley SysteMAX. The Holley will give you 1 additional horsepower and 1 more ft pound of torque for an extra $150.00, according to the 347 test mule at 5.0 magazine.
By the way, Moser makes a 33 spline and a 31 spline axle for Mustangs.
For your setup, the Trick Flow Track Heat is the best full kit to put on your engine. Otherwise, you will have to mix and match heads, intake and exhaust. The Track Heat is less expensive and performs every bit as well as the Holley SysteMAX. The Holley will give you 1 additional horsepower and 1 more ft pound of torque for an extra $150.00, according to the 347 test mule at 5.0 magazine.
By the way, Moser makes a 33 spline and a 31 spline axle for Mustangs.
boy that's an opinion,
Gt40/Cobra/Explorer all flow within a couple of cfm of each other. There are a ton of Explorer intakes still available.... And they do not flow anything near the holley... But, still good intakes...
Where is the Holley and is this on a 347 engine, that is what he is installing. The reason the GT40 is better for "drag racing" is because it enters the torque range at a lower RPM, as you can see above. Now for some 347 facts:
As you can see, the trick flow is much less expensive and the results are the same. HolleySysteMAX, OVERPRICED!! and underperformed compared to a Trick Flow Track Heat on a "347".
Dont worry little Jedi, you will learn.
BBK SSI $549.99 ($699.99 w/70mm TB)
Edelbrock Performer RPM II $599.95
FRPP GT-40 $599.95
Holley SysteMAX II $569.88
Trick Flow Track Heat $450.00
RPM BBK SSI Edelbrock
Performer RPM II FRPP GT-40
Torque Power Torque Power Torque Power
3,100 241.8 409.6 230.8 391 235.5 412.2
3,200 248.8 408.4 238.3 391.1 242.6 411.1
3,300 256.7 408.5 248.1 394.9 249.7 409.9
3,400 264.5 408.6 257.4 397.5 258.4 411.3
3,500 272.4 408.7 265.9 398.9 267.1 412.6
3,600 281.1 410.1 273.5 399 277.6 416.5
3,700 289 410.2 281.2 399.2 288.2 420.4
3,800 296.9 410.3 289.8 400.5 298 423.1
3,900 305.7 411.7 300.3 404.4 305.3 421.9
4,000 313.6 411.8 311 408.4 310.6 418.3
4,100 322.6 413.2 323.8 414.8 316.7 415.8
4,200 332.6 415.9 335.8 419.9 323.7 414.7
4,300 343.7 419.8 349.1 426.4 334.7 418.6
4,400 353.9 422.5 359.4 429 348 425
4,500 361 421.3 367.7 429.1 358.3 427.7
4,600 370.2 422.7 374.8 428 367.6 429
4,700 382.9 427.9 383 427.9 377 430.4
4,800 395.8 433.1 392.4 429.3 387.5 433.1
4,900 404.1 433.1 401.8 430.7 397 434.4
5,000 408.8 429.5 410.1 430.8 405.4 434.5
5,100 412.2 424.5 419.6 432.1 411.4 432.1
5,200 414.1 418.3 426.7 431 414.8 427.2
5,300 417.1 413.3 432.5 428.6 416.8 421
5,400 419.9 408.4 438.2 426.2 418.5 414.8
5,500 422.5 403.4 442.5 422.5 420.1 408.6
5,600 423.5 397.2 445.3 417.6 418.7 399.8
5,700 424.3 391 447.9 412.7 415.6 389.8
5,800 424.9 384.8 448.9 406.5 409.5 377.3
5,900 423.8 377.3 449.7 400.3 407 368.5
6,000 423.9 371.1 450.2 394.1 402.8 358.5
RPM Holley SysteMAX II Trick Flow Track Heat
Torque Power Torque Power
3,100 233.1 394.9 233.9 396.3
3,200 240.6 394.9 241.5 396.4
3,300 249 396.3 250.7 399
3,400 257.4 397.6 258.4 399.1
3,500 265.1 397.7 265.2 397.9
3,600 273.6 399.1 272.8 398.1
3,700 282.1 400.5 282.3 400.7
3,800 291.7 403.1 291.8 403.4
3,900 302.2 407 302.4 407.3
4,000 314.8 413.4 313.2 411.2
4,100 328.7 421 325.1 416.4
4,200 339.8 424.9 336.1 420.3
4,300 350.1 427.6 347.4 424.3
4,400 359.4 429 357.7 426.9
4,500 368.7 430.3 367 428.3
4,600 379.2 432.9 375.3 428.5
4,700 387.5 433.1 384.6 429.8
4,800 395.8 433.1 392.9 430
4,900 405.3 434.5 402.4 431.3
5,000 414.9 435.8 413.2 434
5,100 422.1 434.7 421.5 434.1
5,200 428 432.3 428.7 433
5,300 432.5 428.6 434.5 430.5
5,400 436.9 424.9 438.9 426.9
5,500 439.8 420 443.2 423.2
5,600 442.6 415.1 446 418.3
5,700 445.2 410.2 447.2 412.1
5,800 446.1 404 446.8 404.6
5,900 445.4 396.5 444.7 395.8
6,000 444.5 389.1 443.6 388.3
Read more: http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0601_mustang_intake_manifold_test/viewall.html#ixzz1k3CX0nNq
What moves a car Torque....
Your numbers are on a 302?....he is building a 347. Please learn to read. The Trick Flow is the better choice.
What makes a car move is suspension...thought you realized that at the stop sign.
the car won't go anywhere if the wheels don't spin...
Oh Todd, I hate to burst your bubble but, its only a race when two people are racing....
If you look at both intakes, the Holley is still flowing better cfm on both engine combinations. I have been in this game longer than you to know what the above user wants to achieve with is car. Not everyone is out to Drag Race.. He has a 1994 5.0 which right off the bat is the wrong platform to start with. I had one and know this. I'm not trying to have a debate about this just talking from experience... Remember Blue Streak?
The computer on a 94 is the worst computer ford ever made...
I'm not going to hijack his thread to prove I forgot more about engines and racing than you have ever developed. If you would like me to start a thread and ask the members, past or present, who knows more about racing and engine building I can do that. Just dont be upset when the results roll in.
I'll be at the track all year starting this weekend coming up...let me know when your ready!!! Yosi had his day and I'll take mine anytime you like. The reason I write this is because you wont even show. You know you cannot win.
I'll be at the track all year starting this weekend coming up...let me know when your ready!!! Yosi had his day and I'll take mine anytime you like. The reason I write this is because you wont even show. You know you cannot win.
I agree the car choice is not the best, but the computer can be chipped. The intake performance is still nearly identical and the price on the Holley is ridiculous:
Trickflow 447.2/434.1 Price: $450.00
Holley 446.1/435.8 Price: $569.88
zak
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yea biut im talkin about the full trick flow kit....heads cam and intake......but thanks for the help guys appreciate iti will probably go with trick flow just off personal preference....will any transmission mods have to be done with the stroker kit and top end kit?